National Early For V8 Tour 2013

Note 2 to Tourers October 7, 2013

Welcome to all!   This is the second note of information about the upcoming Early Ford V8 Tour in New Mexico.  We have a great group signed up, 27 cars set for the tour so far.   A current registration list is included in this note.    

On a personal note, my ’40 has the engine installed and has been around the block.   Beth and I will do some shorter trips to ‘check it out’ before taking off for the tour.     Thanks to all who called with words of encouragement.   At the end of this note are some of my rookie experiences – hope you enjoy the follies.    I have also had calls from some who haven’t gotten their cars together but plan to join the tour in ‘modern iron’.   It is great ya’ll are coming along.

(Changes are in italics for simple reading)

Impact of the Government Shutdown:  An ongoing government shutdown will have only very minor impact on our tour.  All locations , except Bandelier National Monument, will be open and eager to see us.  If Bandelier is shut down ever thoughtful Larry Azevedo has alternative plans.

General tour information: 

The welcome desk will be open at the Elkhorn Lodge in Chama from 3 to 6 pm on Monday October 14th.   Stop by and pick up your bag and name tags and say hi.   We have altered the welcome desk to include cheese and crackers and water.  You are welcome to stop by anytime with your wine to drink or share.

On Monday, a member from Colorado, Harry Lindsay, has arranged a tour of the train yards in Chama.   This is a no cost tour but you must be at the train yards at 2:00 pm for the tour.  

Tuesday morning we will gather at 8:15am at the Elkhorn Lodge for the welcome address ( I will say hi, so this should take about 3 minutes).    Jay Hertz, the President of our regional club, will describe the plan for the day.  Jay is also a member of the Friends of the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad and will give a wonderful description of the railroad and its historical significance plus describe the buildings associated with the railroad in Chama. There will then be time for a stroll and picking up your train tickets before the 10am departure for those taking the train trip.

Wednesday morning we will gather at 9:00am at the Elkhorn Lodge where Joyce and Jim Clements will provide details for the trip to Taos.  Plenty of time for the drive to Taos and for tour time in Taos.   For the adventuresome, there will also be time for a trip around the Enchanted Circle including the Angel Fire ski area.

Thursday morning we will gather at 9:30am at the Quality Inn at 1043 Paseo del Pueblo Sur for a briefing on the trip to Santa Fe.  Joe Abbin, of “Supercharging the Flathead” fame, is the guide for Thursday.   During this part of the tour we will take the “high road (Hwy 68)” along the Rio Grande River and visit The Classical Gas Museum in Embudo, NM.   We will continue on to Chimayo where we will lunch at Rancho de Chimayo, 300 Juan Medina Rd.  Note, we are not eating at Sugar’s and will have more time in Chimayo. After lunch there will be time to take in some of the interesting sites in Chimayo including a sculptor and his wares, a weaver studio, and the historic Santuario de Chimayo before traveling on to Santa Fe. There are several routes with interesting historical features so bring your questions to Joe on Thursday morning to assure you see what you are most interested in.

Thursday evening there will be a dutch treat group dinner for anyone who wants to join.  It is at the Blue Corn Café at 133 Waters Street.  This is within walking distance of our hotels.   The Blue Corn is mainly Mexican Food but includes some American staples.  It is large enough to host our group and allow ordering from the menu.      

Friday morning we will gather at 7:00am (yes, that is 7:00am but there is good reason for the early start) at the Old Santa Fe Inn at 320 Galisteo St., Santa Fe, NM 87501.   Larry Azevedo will join us there and explain the plans for Friday.   The basic plan is to arrive at Bandelier National Monument before 9:00am so we can drive into the site.   After 9:00 you can still enter the site but you must park your car and take a bus.    After Bandelier it is a short drive to Los Alamos where we will enter via “the back door” where each driver will be required to show drivers license and vouch for the people in the car.  Los Alamos is the last planned tour stop.  From there you can return to Santa Fe or depart for home with wonderful memories.

If the government shutdown continues and the Bandelier National Monument remains closed, Larry has several great alternatives planned.  Regardless we will still tour Los Alamos.

Optional activities:

For those coming from or through Albuquerque a group will gather at the McDonalds Restaurant at San Mateo and Academy at 9am on Monday October 13th for a group drive to Chama.  Note the leaving time from Albuquerque is 9am to allow us to get to Chama in time for the train yard tour.  San Mateo is a major exit off I25 on the north side of Albuquerque.   Take the San Mateo exit and go right (east towards the mountains) and you can’t miss McDonalds.  The trip to Chama is about 165 miles so there will be ample time for the drive plus lunch while arriving for the train yard tour and when the welcome desk is still open.

Please Remember: 

We are reminding everyone to bring a fire extinguisher for their car.   Yes, we all know your car won’t have a problem but be mindful of the fellow in front of you.  If you bring a CB we will be monitoring channel 4 during the tour.   Jeff and Beth will be in Albuquerque through the weekend of October 12,13 if anything comes up or for questions give us a call.  505 908 7565

The following are some of our (Jeff and Beth’s) recent experiences working on a ’40 coupe.   Enjoy and smile!

I have not written down all my "learnings" doing the '40 Coupe but a few things happened recently that merit discussion.

From now on I will remember that when the Motor Manual says  'to remove engine: remove bolts, carefully lift engine out, repair then replace engine' (paraphrased) those may not be the complete set of instructions. 

Some stuff not to do:

First thing not to do is install the fan before the radiator.  Yes, it is easier to install the fan first because the radiator won’t skin your knuckles but recall Ford did not make it easy.

Well actually first is, when tapping out the paint from the fan mounting bolt holes do not break off the tap in a bolt hole.

Second, practice installing the radiator and fan several times.   Then last time you have it apart, put the bottom sheet metal on before installing the bottom radiator bolts.   You are on your way to mastering the art of finding the hole in the lower radiator support bolt and sticking the teeny weeny cotter pin in it.

Third, tighten the lower radiator hose before installing the bottom sheet metal.  Otherwise you get some more practice taking the sheet metal off.

Fourth, when installing the center section sheet metal of the interior floor and it doesn't fit, do not modify with a hammer because later you will learn the wood sections on the side of the center sheet metal go on AFTER the center metal section.   You now have the pleasure of remolding the metal section to fit where it should have gone in the first derned place.

Fifth, when you call wifey out to help hold the bolts that hold the center section sheet metal down make sure you know what you are doing.   Because wifey doesn't like to come out and do it twice, once before and once after you have modified the center sheet metal.

Sixth, when under the car practicing new words trying to get nuts on bolts that you can't see, if you poke the back of your hand with a wire tie end; do not hop out from under the car and strap a piece of paper towel on the puncture and wrap it with electrical tape.  The reason being, when you start working the nuts on again the red stuff from the puncture runs down your arm into your arm pit.  Phooey.

A day later all is well, hook up the battery and see if it starts.  Carefully hook up the battery wire to the starter solenoid – you want to be careful in case there is a short somewhere.  In my case, no short however, no way it will start with no juice.   Check battery – fully charged.   Think!   Well there are two large wires to the starter solenoid and two small wires from one side of the solenoid.  Logic would say the wire from the battery should be physically on the battery side of the solenoid and starter on the other side.   But, this logical hook up means there is no juice to the two little wires -- so swap wires.   Bingo, well sort of, now connection is made but when hooking up the battery to the solenoid it sparks BIG TIME.    Nope, I’m not fast enough to hook it up before it sparks so better find the short.   Henry Ford had a mean streak running a direct wire to the horn solenoid and putting in down the side of the fender underneath the horn.  If that solenoid shorts it draws – well you know the story.   So fix the short and try again.   It starts!

Wifey is in the garage when it starts to watch for “things” and she start hollering.   She hollers because she doesn’t think parts of the lower radiator hose should be flying off the car.   Dern if she ain’t right again.    It turns out the lower radiator hose is not a smooth “S” curve.   One side is longer and that side should be on bottom to assure the radiator hose clears the fan.   Find another lower hose remove the bottom shield and install.   A hint for those who need it, check both lower radiator hoses while you are down there.   

By the way, which of you caught the error in step three above?   If you tighten the lower hoses with the sheet metal off you may be tempted to tighten them from below the car because you are right there close to them.   However, next time you need to take them off you must pull the lower sheet metal.   Best if you tighten the lower radiator hose clamps from the top so you can take them off without having to pull the sheet metal and you don’t have the aggravation of putting that teeny weeny cotter pin in the lower radiator support bolts 12 times.

Here is another hint that could save some time.   When filling the radiator do not allow any fluid to overflow the filler.  If fluid overflows the filler it tends to hide in the radiator fins.  Then next time you start the car wifey yells the radiator is leaking.   It should not be leaking so after two hours blowing out the fins with an air hose and then cleaning the front of the engine you start the car again.  Wifey yells the radiator is leaking.   Hurrah you get to take the radiator off another time to have it checked at the shop (but by now you are a radiator removing pro).  Fortunately the radiator shop has a sense of humor when they call to tell you there was no leak!

Now is the last, for sure final, time the radiator is going in the car.   The car starts, no leaks let’s go around the block.    Hey honey, did you remind me to adjust the clutch before I took the car off the blocks?   No hubby that’s your job. 

Finally, something to do is share the humor of mistakes -- we are a learning club!

Jeff and Beth Jackson

P.S. If you can find me (when wifey is not around) ask me about experiences installing the hood.