V8 TIMES


PLEASE NOTE: All meetings include Show & Tell. Members are encouraged to bring items to share.

NEXT MEETING: Tuesday, July 1, 7:00 p.m., Old Car Garage. Larry Azevedo will present the first in a multipart series on Henry Ford. Refreshments by Tom & Dee Patterson and Jeff & Beth Jackson.

Meetings begin at 7:00 p.m.

NEXT BOARD MEETING: Tuesday, July 8 at 7pm at Jackson’s House. Everyone is invited.

BREAKFAST GROUP and Tour Combined: Tour of Albuquerque Botanical Gardens and the Aquarium and lunch. (Replaces breakfast this month)

CLUB WEBSITE: Be sure to check out our website at www.abqfordflatheadv8.com   Updated “current Information and calendar” is on the current information page.

FORD V8 FOUNDATION WEBSITE: Another interesting website to check out is www.fordv8foundation.org





President: R. Jeff Jackson (jbjaxun@gmail.com)

Vice-President: Bob Quirici (bjq1985@aol.com)

Secretary: Larry Williams (l-m-williams@comcast.net)

Treasurer: Lou Gorenz (lmgorenz@comcast.net)

Technical Director: Joe Abbin (roadrunnerengr@msn.com)

Touring Director: John Shelton (john.shelton33@yahoo.com)

Club Purpose & Membership Director: Larry Azevedo (dribblebit@comcast.net)







Members are encouraged to submit articles, ads and photographs for inclusion in the newsletter.  Please be aware we have a volunteer Newsletter Editor so please try and submit typed and proofed articles, minutes and comments and new want ads (for sale items will continue to be updated at the meetings).  The deadline for submissions is the 24th of the month. Beth Jackson, 505-890-2704, or email: JBJaxun@gmail.com



PRESIDENT’S MESSAGE    Jeff Jackson, President




If it quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck………………………


Well, it was the only title that worked with this picture of our picnic at Sandia Lakes on Saturday June 14th.   A small group of Tumbleweed Members were entertained by a large group of ducks at Sandia Lake.   We had a nice relaxing time eating on the grass and watching the ducks play.   Betty Shelton invited the ducks over with bread.   Lou further involved the ducks in our lunch with potato chips.    But, Jay as ever always involved, tried to feed his finger to one of the more aggressive ducks and decided he would throw the bread further the next time.

On Saturday June 21 Frank hosted a good meal at Sopa’s in Bosque Farms.    We left the UNM parking lot with 4 club cars and a modern pickup and were greeted by a similar number waiting for us at Sopa’s.   It was good to head down south and end up with a bigger group.   Jim Kontney and Bill Verant invited us to an impromptu garage tour.   We were treated to a look at some fabulous T-birds and club cars.  We also rounded up a new member when Bill Verant rejoined the club.  I believe all the club cars made it home in one piece.   The short drives are nice on summer days without too much overheating stress and still allowing us to use our cars.   

Back to what the duck metaphor tells us.   If your car, new or used, starts saying there is something wrong ---listen to it.   If it sounds like a squeak in the brake system you’d better check the brakes.   Or, in my case, if the starter keeps hanging up on the flywheel you had better check the flywheel.   Beth finally said she was tired of leaving home in the car and coming home trailering the car.   Guess I will be pulling the engine again.  

In July we have several opportunities with our cars for shorter trips.  Of course the famous Corrales Parade and picnic hosted by Lorna and Larry on the 4th starts the month off.  Then we are combining the Saturday breakfast with a short drive to the Aquarium.   Bob Quirci will lead this activity.  The July meeting features Larry Azevedo with the first in a two part series on Henry Ford.


Finally, the Tumbleweed Club responded to the National Club as discussed in our May meeting.  Essentially, we said stick with club rules, focus on flatheads, and consider expanding the touring and exhibition classes. Please take a look at the picture of Joyce in this newsletter, it provides us all a target of cuteness.  Have a great June!



Larry Williams, Secretary

President Jeff Jackson called the meeting to order. There were no guests or new members. Everyone received their newsletters just fine. There were no changes or corrections to the minutes from the May meeting.

Treasurer Lou gave his report. The balance in the savings account is $1,395.65 and the balance in checking is $4,718.92. The picnic netted $67.00.

Happy Birthday to Joyce Gorenz (13), Marka Catchpole (15), and Vern Willan (19).

Thanks to Lou and Mary for bringing refreshments.

Old Business

Jim gave the car council report and talked about the successful museum car show. Joyce said there were 360 cars there including 40 of which were newer.

Joe Abbin discussed the Memorial Day Club Birthday Party picnic. A good turnout of members enjoyed excellent weather and food.

The next breakfast at Sopa’s in Bosque Farms will be brought to you by Frank. That date is June 21 and the group will leave the Pit at 8:30am.

We appreciate the Recipe of the Month provided by Betty Leupold. Her pick for the July recipe is Meg Williams.

John Shelton gave us an update on plans for the June 14 picnic at Sandia Lakes. It will start at 11am and everyone should bring their own food. Drinks will be provided.

Patches for jackets and raffle tickets for the Central National Meet will be on sale during the break.

New Business

Saturday July 19th  will be our tour of Albuquerque Botanical Gardens and the Aquarium led by Bob Quirici. This is in lieu of breakfast in July. Please meet at 10am by the ticket booth. There is a restaurant there where we will lunch.

A request for input was received from Phil and Connie Hall, regional directors of the National V8 Club, regarding possible changes to membership in the future. After considerable discussion our members voted unanimously to recommend “leaving National V8 Club 1932-1953 and requirements as is”.

Ford and Friends California is still accepting registrations between now and August with a fee of $85.00 for the September National Meet.

The July meeting program will be Larry Azevedo with a discussion on Henry Ford.

Friday, July 4th is the Corrales Parade and Picnic at Larry and Lorna Azevedo’s. Members are encouraged to drive club cars in the parade.

Collector Car Appreciation Day is July 11 with activities planned for Saturday, July 12.

Don’t forget that the meeting time is 7pm every month from now on.

We have put the web address for the Ford Foundation in the newsletter as part of normal business.

Joe talked about the Roadster Show on Father’s Day at the Fairplex in Pomona, CA.

Art brought a very small steering wheel clock for Show and Tell.

Jeff still has a number of new parts from Bob Drake (from the fellow cleaning out an estate). Please call him if you have any interest, the list appears in the newsletter.

After the raffle and refreshments we had an interesting discussion of recommended vendors (in lieu of a program). Several members recommend J & B Radiators on Edith for good results with radiators and gas tanks. Louis Lamb is also considered good in Los Lunas. Bob uses Albuquerque Radiators on Tennessee. He thinks its much better to just buy a new gas tank from Tanks, Inc. for around $250, than have one repaired. Bob’s parting advice was to not use OAT based antifreeze.





July 4th Corrales Parade and Picnic

Lorna and Larry Avezedo are hosting a picnic at their house in Corrales after the annual Corrales parade. Bring a side dish or dessert, the main dish will be provided as well as lemonade and water. See you there!

July 19th Tour of Botanical Gardens and Aquarium

By Bob Quirici

Meet 10AM near ticket booth. Combo Admission includes Zoo, Aquarium/Botanic Gardens.

                                                New Mexico Resident Prices:

Adult (13-64) $15

Senior   (65+) $8

Child (3-12) $6

Military discounts with ID

Train Tickets to Zoo $2/$1

Accept cash, check, Visa, Mastercard, Discover and American Express.

You can buy tickets online anytime.  All tickets are good for one-day use.  Open 9-5.


Shark Reef Café

Open 9-5

Meet for lunch at 12. Menu includes breakfast burritos-$8.95, pancakes-$5.95, salads-$5.75, burgers and sandwiches-$8-$10.95. A full menu is available.

I have made reservations for 15 people under the Tumbleweed Club. I can change the reservations subject to the July meeting. Hope to see all of you at the club activity. It is not necessary to drive the old car.





By Meg Williams


3 Bananas, sliced

1 Can (15 ¼ oz.) Chunk Pineapple and Juice

1 Can (11 oz.) Mandarin Orange Sections, Drained

2 Cups Whole Strawberries

1 Can (21 oz.) Peach Pie Filling


Mix all ingredients together and chill.








Summarized from the AACA Forum                                                       Submitted by Joyce Clements

Information has been published in the Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg Club newsletter concerning the use of "extended life" antifreeze in cars over 14 years old. In a nutshell – don't do it! Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should an "extended life" antifreeze, which utilizes Organic Additive Technology (OAT) as one of its chemicals, ever be used in cars manufactured before the year 2000. "Extended life" antifreezes were introduced to reduce maintenance costs, down times, and environmental disposal costs. They were designed to be changed every five years, as opposed to the older 2-year change.

OAT antifreeze attacks the gaskets and gasket cements in our cars, causing major leaks and forcing ultra-expensive repairs.  The OAT chemicals attack silicone and lead based products; most gasket sealants are silicone based, and radiator solder is lead based, as are some water pump bushings.  The "Silver Ghost Association" Rolls Royce people have documented massive cooling system failures apparently caused by this antifreeze product. Antifreeze that can be used safely in our cars uses older-fashioned Inorganic Additive Technology (IAT) additive. You cannot tell by the color of the antifreeze if it is safe to use. At least two oranges, two reds, green, dark green, yellow, blue, blue-green, clear, and pink dyes are currently being used. Also, the product may be labeled "Safe for Older Cars" – meaning 14 years old at most.

Brands to be AVOIDED are all Prestone lines and Zerex's G-05 in the Gold-color container. Avoid any "extended life" antifreeze. None of us wants to pull and rebuild our cars' engines. Acceptable brands are Peak, Peak's HD Product "Sierra" and Zerex Original Green in the WHITE container.

As to using Ethylene Glycol or Propylene Glycol,  IAT and OAT antifreezes are available in either. The difference seems to be that the Ethylene is poisonous to humans and animals and will corrode some engine components if it gets into the engine, while Propylene is harmless and non-corrosive. The Propylene is recommended for those reasons, but it is harder to find.

If any of the OAT, Hybrid Organic Acid Technology (H-OAT), or Nitrated Organic Acid Technology (N-OAT) products are in your car, the cooling system should promptly be drained – radiator and block – the system flushed thoroughly, and IAT antifreeze installed. Change it every two years.





Happy Birthday to:                                                Happy Anniversary to:      

Beth Jackson (12)                                                      Jay & Helen Hertz (3)

Max Glover (15)                                                        Harvey & Marka Catchpole (21)

Don Gorenz (25)                                                       Mark & Kara Williams (25)

Jim Kontny (26)


Ponder This:
If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?
Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?
"I am" is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that "I do" is the longest sentence?
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked, and drycleaners depressed?
If Fed EX merged with UPS, would it be called FED-UP?
What hair color do they put on the drivers licenses of bald men?
I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as they get older, then it dawned on me...they're cramming for the final exam.
If it is true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for?
No one ever says "it's only a game when their team is winning.
Whatever happened to preparation A through G?


Tumbleweed Early Ford V8 Club Calendar for 2014


Tuesday 1st Club Meeting 7:00pm  Larry Azevedo with the first in a multipart series on Henry Ford

Friday July 4th Corrales Parade and picnic with Larry and Lorna.   We are encouraging the club to drive cars in the parade.

Tuesday July 8th 7:00pm  Board meeting at the Jackson’s house.

Friday July 11 – COLLECTOR CAR Appreciation Day Friday, July 11th with activities planned for Saturday, July 12th.

Saturday 19th Tour of Albuquerque Botanical Gardens and The Aquarium and Lunch (replaces Saturday breakfast)


Tuesday 5th Club Meeting 7:00pm To Be Determined (possible discussion of club history or shop safety)

Sunday August 10 – All Clubs Picnic will also be our tour activity.   This is a great picnic and nice drive.


Tuesday 2nd Club Meeting 7:00  Larry Azevedo presents the second part in the series on the life of Henry Ford

September 14th (Date Not Finalized)  State Fair

Saturday September 20th Breakfast

September 26-28 – NMCCC/Los Lunas Swap Meet


Tuesday 7th Club Meeting 7:00pm

Saturday 18th A ride on the Sandia Tram and lunch (replaces Saturday Breakfast)


Saturday Nov 1st Garage Tour Jay Hertz and Jeff/Beth Jackson with a lunch at the Jackson’s.  Drive your old car on the tour.

Tuesday 4th Club Meeting 7:00pm  Election of Officers and a Ladies night


Tuesday 2nd Club Meeting 7:00pm – Christmas Party

Discussed but not confirmed: Ed Boles and a tour of the Railroad Yard, probably an afternoon activity



OTHER NEARBY ACTIVITIES                                                                                                                           

June 28 – Summerfest Car Show – Heritage Park, Los Lunas – Vendors, live music, giveaways – Entry $20 advance, $25 day of show – Marty Otero 865-8987 or vsotero@yahoo.com – Los Lunas C of C 352-3596 or 450-6348

July 11-12 – Collector Car Appreciation Day Cruise In – Sonic Drive-in, 5000 San Mateo NE 

 – 5-9pm – Music, tire-kicking, informal car show – joyce@nmcarcouncil.net

July 12 – Collector Car Appreciation Event – Mild to Wild Classics, 3rd & Summer NW –           

10am- 2pm – Tony Kos mildtowildclassics@yahoo.com

July 12 – Golden Gears Special Collector Car Cruise In – White Sands Mall to Southside Sonic, Alamogordo – Valerie LaRue brebiz@yahoo.com

July 18-19 – 32nd Land of Enchantment Rod Run & Car Show – Civitan Park, Farmington – Chuck Melazzo (505)326-0076

July 19 – Bear Canyon Estates Show – Bear Canyon Estates Retirement Community, 4440 Morris St. NE – Need 5 to 7 cars from 1920's to 1950's, including convertible that can be used to give  residents rides around facility – 11am-1pm – Includes lunch – Erica Costello (505)293-0480 (work) or (505)288-7735 (cell)

July 19-20 – 14th Annual Neon Cruise, Old Route 66 Car Show & Route 66 Summerfest – Nob Hill area – Starts 12 noon, Cruise at 8:30pm – Entry $20 – Trophies, T-shirts & more – Open to

all – Sunday is race day at Motiva Motor Speedway (www.napaspeedway.com) – Bruce Shaffer


July 25-26 – DeFoeller Specialty Car Auction – Denver Merchandise Mart, CO – Info (817)343-4966 or www.DeFoeller.net

July 25-27 – Rt. 66 Freedom Flight & Cruise, Car, Truck & Street Rod Show – Gallup Courthouse Square – Balloon mass ascensions, motorcycles, live music, food, vendors, beer garden  – Steve Gurley (505)870-7405 or www.gurleymotorcoroute66carshow.com or (505)722-4430 or www.GoGallup.com

July 29-August 3 – Hot August Nights – Reno, NV

July 31-August 2 – Barrett-Jackson Auction – Reno, NV – In conjunction with Hot August Nights

August, 2014 and Later – Seeking host homes in Albuquerque and other towns in New Mexico for Foreign Exchange High School Students with an interest in automobiles – Call Michele Avila (505)702-1548 or mavilaetc@outlook.com




All the meets will be honoring the 75th Anniversary of 1939 model Ford products. Entry forms, costs, and schedules for all the meets can be found at www.earlyfordv8.org. Joyce will have sample entry forms at the meeting if you are interested in any meet.

August 19-22 – Central National Meet in Springfield, IL – "V-8ing Joy in Illinois" closer to home. Visit www.nirgv8.org for information. Jay has entry forms and raffle tickets for this meet.

September 2-5 – Western National Meet in Ventura, CA – "Fords & Folks in Thousand Oaks" in sunny California. Visit http://www.venturav8s.com for more information.

September 7-12 – 2014 National Driving Tour in Upper Peninsula, MI – "Say yah to da U.P., eh". For details, Keith Johnson (906)249-3262 (eastern time zone) or upv8tour14@att.net












For Sale: Rebuilt generators, starters, carburetors, distributors, water pumps, clutches, etc. for your

flathead. Best deal in town. Also parts. What do you need? Art Leupold, 505-299-7154.

For Sale: Sealed beam bulbs, headlight or fog, clear or amber, 6 or 12 volt. Spotlights, 6 0r 12 volt. Art Leupold, 505-299-7154

For Sale: Heater switch (NOS) ? '46 Ford. Frank Corey, 299-5168.

For Sale: 62 Jaguar MK2, 58 Jaguar XK150, Jaguar SS100 Replica, 70 Toyota Land Cruiser, 2 – Range Rovers, Jeep Wagoneer. Estate Sale, call John Shelton, 243-9877

For Sale: Flathead Ford Parts; 1 '46-'48 crank shaft w/main and rod inserts and caps; 1 pre-'46 crank shaft; 1 good '46-'48 oil pan; 2 flywheels; 1 intake manifold; 12 water pump cores; 1 intake manifold; 2 oil pumps; 3 oil filters; 2 fuel pump cores; 2 air filters; 6 starter &

generator cores; 4 distributor cores; cam shafts; 1 set rods from '46-'48. Call Max, 249-7433.

For Sale: Call Lou, 505-450-1789: 1 pr exhaust manifolds for duals, 292-272-239 $75.00.  1 pr hood side emblems 1960 Ford PU, excellent shape $100. 1 ea. 2010 Ford F150 chrome used grille $100.

For Sale: 1995 Taurus, sun roof, leather, very low miles, great condition, SHO. Needs A/C charged. One time sale, $2700. Call Lou, 505-450-1789.

For Sale: Two 1941 Merc sedans w/8 new tires, $1500 for both, 95% complete. Two V8 60 engines, $500 each. Larry Azevedo, 410-1909.

For Sale: 24-foot V-nosed enclosed trailer, new tires, nice. Robby Clauss 991-4672

For Sale: 1950 Merc Coupe, project car. Lots of new parts and lots of extras.  Body in great shape, new paint. Bob Mathes 507-6995

For Sale: 2004 Ford Thunderbird, owned since new; mint green. Jay Hertz, 235-8235.

For Sale: 3 – 91A-16796/7 SS  1938/40 Passenger Car  Hood Hinges Stainless Steel

3 – 91A-16802/3 SS  1939 Deluxe, 1940 Std., 1940 Deluxe  Hood Arm & Spring Supports

2 – 78-8100-B  1937-48 Passenger  Radiator Cap       2 – 01A-7004690-K  1940  Deluxe Dash Trim

2 – 91A-5034 SS 1939 Dlx, 1940 Pass, & 1941 – 1941 PU Front License Plate Bracket

2 – 01A-13406 SS 1938-1948 Passenger  Rear License Plate Bracket   4 – 91A-16789 SS  1939-48 Hood Arm Springs SS

8 – 78-6038-K  1937-1948 Front Motor Mounts                         10 – 40-17758  1933-1940  Bumper Bolts

2 – 01A-16009-K  1940  Rear Fender to Body Clip Kit                   2 – 91A-8219  1939-1940  Hood Ornament Hardware

2 – 78-17481  1937-1940  Wiper Arm Nuts                              2 – 48-9735  1935-1948  Gas Pedal

2 – 01A-17526  1937-1940 Conv., Sta Wagon, All 1940 Closed  Windshield Wiper Arms

3 – 78-16746/7  1937-1940  Hood Hinge Pads                 4 – 91A-7002330  1939-1942 Pass and PU  Cowl Vent Gasket

These are all new Bob Drake parts. Parts for sale at 50% discount from current and no shipping fee.  Call Jeff Jackson at 505-908-7565 for details or to make an offer.

Wanted: 1933-36 Ford dropped axle. Joe Abbin, 296-7678.

Wanted: ’51 Ford 3-speed OD transmission case. David McLain, 334-782-3521.

Wanted: For 1940 Mercury Fordor: Dash plastic, nice hubcaps, grill parts. Jim Clements 505-884-7912.

Wanted: 1940 used Speed-O-Meter (Ford, of course) call Lou 450-1789.

Services Offered: Vintage engine rebuilding, any make, any model. Stock or modified. Dynamometer testing available. Results guaranteed. References available. Gary McGlasson, 505-250-1586.

Services Offered: Frank Corey, who has made a meeting presentation about the mechanical aspects of Ford overdrives, is available to consult on the electrical aspects as well. Frank has a supply of overdrive parts for sale, for those who may be interested. Frank can be contacted at 505-299-5168 or (frankford4@aol.com).

For Rent: Indoor Car Parking Space. $75/month. Jim Clements 884-7912.























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